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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...So its 4 years old and it still rocks. Everything is so smooth. It never gets sick (its online about 14hrs per day 6 days a week), no viruses. I never get frustrated with it. Applications install almost instantly. It starts in several seconds.

Hmm, just like my PC.

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This is a 4 year old laptop that has never had a virus (or any antivirus). In my experience of Windows PCs & laptops for the 6 years prior to owning the Mac I have never had such a frustration-free run of computer usage.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With regards no viruses - that does beg the question, if you don't have any anti-virus software how'd you know you've not got any viruses? Yeah ok, that sounds like the marketting dept speak of an anti-virus maker. Smile

There's always a lot of emphasis put on Apple's being stable and virus free and PCs being slow, crashing and riddled with viruses. But most of that relates to the operating system not the PC spec. Since Windows is on the majority of non-server PCs and it's not exactly virus resistant or crash proof then I guess that sways things, but Linux is a good alternative that very much stands up against the Apple OS's. Oh and it's free.

One thing I really don't like about Mac's is that all the bits seem to come from Apple so you can't chose from 10 graphics cards, 30 network cards etc etc. Thus you're always going to pay a premium as shown in the starting price of most Mac's compared to the equivalent PC. Feels like they've got their users over a barrel.

I don't hate Apple mind you - they did bring out the iPod which is by far the best MP3 player I've come across and worth the premium price.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you're B2B or B2C, you really ought to install virus scanning on a Mac.

Think about it.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:20 pm    Post subject: hey Reply with quote

hey Well Mac techonology is aweseom. i have read all about Mac techology its very fast and very good. Cheers
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Sums it all up, really.... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:49 pm    Post subject: . Reply with quote

With regards to a Mac,

There once was a test done, with a Mac and PC with exactly the same hardware, and Mac well out-performed the PC on every level.

heres a quote direct from Apples Website:
Yes, a Mac is 100 percent safe from viruses designed to attack PCs. And although no computer connected to the Internet is completely immune to all viruses and spyware, the Mac is built on a solid UNIX foundation and designed with security in mind. The Mac web browser, Safari, alerts you whenever you’re downloading an application — even if it’s disguised as a picture or movie file. And Apple continually makes free security updates available for Mac owners. You can even have them download automatically.


Virus wise....I'm not entirely sure how Mac OSx works, but I believe Mac OSx has 2 layers, and all the important stuff is stored in the bottom layer which is highly secure and password protected. Whereas everything is viewable on Windows at a top level, so you can go in and mess around with whatever you want and destroy whatever you want!

Some of the most popular Software out there was even designed on a Mac..like Photoshop!!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:51 pm    Post subject: . Reply with quote

Also can i just add, please just have a go and use a Mac for a week or two if you get a chance, becuase I find a lot of people like to bad-mouth Mac without even ever having used it.

I've now used PCs for 15 years, and Macs for 6 years, so I feel i have enough knowledge of both to be able to give advice from your normal users view!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:15 pm    Post subject: Re: . Reply with quote

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Also can i just add, please just have a go and use a Mac for a week or two if you get a chance, becuase I find a lot of people like to bad-mouth Mac without even ever having used it.

Have used them since 2000 and I'm still using them. They're not 'better than PCs'. Fact™.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding Apple's quote:

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Yes, a Mac is 100 percent safe from viruses designed to attack PCs.


Hope that wasn't on an advert or I'll have the ASA down on them for misleading advertising. It's completely safe from PC viruses since the binary codes are entirely different, but then again a PC is perfectly safe from a Commodore 64 virus and of course any Mac OS virus.


They are being very selective in their comparison there and forgetting to mention that if you want the same protection you can run Linux on a PC which gives you much greater choice, a lot more software and probably a quicker computer. It's Windows which causes most of the complications in virus land, not the fact that it's a PC.

Safari can run on a PC although personally I wouldn't touch it with a very long bargepole as I think can IE and Firefox so they not got much of an advantage there. And both IE and Firefox will alert you to various nasties that claim to be something they're not.

As for updates....erm, they heard of Windows Update Centre?


The Mac OS/X is based on Unix (not sure what variety) and thus comes with the protection that affords other versions including the ones that run on PCs. What they seem to have done is put Unix at the bottom and then used a window manager like Gnome or similar to produce the top layer plus presumably various other tweaks.

In theory it produces a very stable safe system although does depend on whether the user can switch into superuser mode (the password bit) in which case it can be more risky.

If they produced the OS/X for PCs then they'd be as "safe" as an Apple Mac, but they won't do that because they know they'd lose hardware sales and people might start questioning the whole safety marketing spin around the Mac.

A Mac is a good computer from certain points of view and yeah they're very good at UI design etc (Windows nicked it so must be good), but you pay a premium for it and it's not quite as mythical as Apple would like everyone to believe.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac OS can run on a PC.....

The only thing stopping it is Jobs' over-protective licencing!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah right - what kindof hardware are they putting into Mac's now? Know it used to be some Motorrola CPU, but maybe they've changed that and gone down an Intel route?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Eagle: Wrong Smile Mac OS will never run on a PC. There are some hacked versions of MacOS that can be installed on a PC ..but still it won't support any hardware. It's called the Hackintosh project, and even on their website they provide a list of supported hardware, and you should check it first. Even if your PC si fully compatible, you'll still have trouble with the kernel, and won't be as stable as neither MacOS nor Windows. Nor the performance is the same.

So, my advice, if you want MacOS, then buy a Mac Book. They look very cool too!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my first Mac last January and instantly became an "Apple fanboy". For me they are just better in every way. The screens are beautiful to look at too. I actually find using my iMac a pleasure whereas any Windows PC or laptop was just a tool before. Recently got a Macbook Air too for travel (even though I really didn't need one). Beautiful little machine with amazing screen resolution.

Anyone into gaming or video editing or something specialist will probably be better with a Windows machine. For someone non technical who has no idea what RAM does, a Mac does the job perfectly.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once was a user of Microsoft products and even got a lot of those Microsoft certificates but then in 2007 I got myself a Macbook Pro and never look back.

That 2007 Mac still runs like a charm but does not get much use after i got an iMac and this summer an Macbook Air.

It is so nice to just have a system that works and not have to worry about viruses.

I do run a virus scanner on my important machine and in the last 2.5 year it found 2 viruses in my email but both where PC viruses Very Happy
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