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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:02 pm    Post subject: Lots of spam Reply with quote

Aaron, I see you guys keep getting spammed (especially evident in this topic)... Since we put up the image verification system on our forum, there has been like 0 spam... I know you guys are busy, but might save you time very quickly. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks - I'll take a look. Our spam problems here are actually minimal when compared with what's going on over at the sports forums. We seem to have a real idiot frequenting the American Football Forum over there... Evil or Very Mad

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spamtrap now activated on the registration screen to hopefully remove these annoying auto joiners thanks to Bytech.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how does spamtrap work??

it seems any user can register and post some sort of spam
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It won't stop people posting spam messages into the forums, but it does stop the automated bots that register for accounts then put porn sites into the users profile. We were a bit concerned that linking to these dodgy web sites through the memberslist wasn't going to do our standing with Google much good.

We've still not worked out how to stop people registering and posting spam or at least we haven't worked out how to spot them and send 10,000 volts down their phone lines to blow their modems off the Net....yet. Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

perhaps something like an aol spam engine to monitor each post Razz

it would be nice to see how their algorithms work, some of them are pretty good. I've heard that the next generation might actually be able to out think spammers in sentence, grammar, even with their special character uses. It will also serve very good applications in computational linguistics... well the written part anyways.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would this be the same AOL spam engine that deletes everything from some fairly reputable ISP's without telling anyone leaving users missing important e-mails and removes signs from e-mails (helpful when sending prices)? Smile

At least thats what I've seen it do so far...

Sounds an interesting system their using there although I'd have thought Bayesian filters was a good system for them to use. Don't really understand them, but from what I hear their one of the best defences especially when they "learn" what sort of e-mails you get.

Then again, forcing use of correct grammar and spelling, erm, does this apply to outgoing mail, newsgroups etc? Now that would be good, no more TYPING EVERYTHING IN CAPS LIKE the stereotypical AOL'er.

As for AOL + good in the same sentence, please wash your mouth with soap & water except when used in the context "AOL, good riddance"... Very Happy


Btw, chances of getting above intellegent system - erm, well I did once want to write an ALICE bot in PHP so you never know. Sort of depends if I can pursuade Aaron to buy a 10,000 Sun Solaris machine for each of the Aardvark forums... Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the way the aol system works is that it does learn what type of e-mails you get, the type of spam that was blocked by you before, and looks for patterns, eventually building your screen name file over time. I did read the post about the currency signs being replaced and that just bites. Something went pretty wrong there Confused

But when i said sentence and grammer, I meant something like, "only $19.95" for a simple example, that a program can pick up instead of correcting grammer or sentences. But when spammers say using "on1y $ l9.9S" for example, it can make it extremly difficult for a program to pick up while very readable for a human. And it's a major pain in the ... Mad

Those solaris machines must be pretty nice... drooooll....
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trev wrote:
...Sort of depends if I can pursuade Aaron to buy a 10,000 Sun Solaris machine for each of the Aardvark forums... Wink


Sorry, what was that... you want no pay for a year or two? Razz Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well the way the aol system works is that it does learn what type of e-mails you get, the type of spam that was blocked by you before, and looks for patterns, eventually building your screen name file over time.


Ah right, so personalised filtering, sounds a good idea although I'm sure I can find plenty of other topics to complain about AOL on... Very Happy

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But when spammers say using "on1y $ l9.9S" for example, it can make it extremly difficult for a program to pick up while very readable for a human.


Boy, that will be tough to spot although I suppose if you're filtering according to word matching then you could automatically use other symbols to create the word list such as every banned word containing an S should also have an equiv. containing a 5 but it could soon get out of control.

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Those solaris machines must be pretty nice... drooooll....


I keep trying and currently failing... However can Apache & PHP run on Sun Solaris?

Actually you know that song "Lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz", how about "Lord won't you buy me a Sun Solaris"....admittidly doesn't have quite the same ring to it and quite tricky to fit in with the music... Smile

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