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paul President


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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:48 pm Post subject: Interesting click fraud article |
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A few years ago, Diane Frerick and Kevin Steele, co-founders of Karaoke Star, a Phoenix-based karaoke equipment seller, were on their way to $3 million in annual revenue.
They owed much of their success to paid search advertising on Google and Yahoo Overture. By bidding anywhere from 40 cents to $3 for keywords revolving around karaoke (such as "karaoke player" or "karaoke song"), Frerick and Steele were able to generate $6,000 a day in sales from $2,000 in advertising, and were watching business grow at a brisk clip -- 35 percent a month compared with the year before. They dreamed of becoming the Home Depot of karaoke.
Then, in the summer of 2003, things came crashing down. Suddenly, the number of clicks on certain keywords jumped from 200 to 800, forcing Karaoke Star to burn through its advertising budget, but $2,000 in advertising yielded just $3,000 in sales. "Our orders went up thousands a day but our bills went up thousands a day," Frerick said. "The increased business cost more than it was worth."
Karaoke Star was a victim of click fraud, a web phenomenon that has been attracting increasing attention...
More here.
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That's a pretty frightening story, and leads me to wonder just how much have the search engines gained out of this 'click fraud' phenomenon? _________________ Finstar Finance, for all your Finance needs, e-mail:- gavinewan@finstaronline.com, web:- www.finstaronline.com |
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adigaskell President


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It's always going to be hard to prevent, especially for high value keywords because just a few clicks a day will mount up to a fair chunk over the course of a year so your competitors can do a reasonable amount of damage pretty easily. The example in the article only got caught because they went too far with it and did lots of false clicks per day.
I wonder what is stopping the search engines using a more appropriate compensation system such as pay-per-sale or pay-per-lead? _________________ My Sites: The Management Blog | The Environment Site | Management Training |
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| adigaskell wrote: | | I wonder what is stopping the search engines using a more appropriate compensation system such as pay-per-sale or pay-per-lead? |
It's very difficult to implement a system like that. Conversion rate varies greatly depending on how the website is designed. For example, suppose that there is a page selling treadmill. The page has 10 pictures of treadmill from different angles. The page also has editorial review and 20 customer reviews. This page probably has much higher conversion rate than page that has only 1 picture and short description. Google has no control over how website owners, designers, design. _________________ Online Education :: Training Forum
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adigaskell President


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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| foundThroughAdminSig wrote: | | adigaskell wrote: | | I wonder what is stopping the search engines using a more appropriate compensation system such as pay-per-sale or pay-per-lead? |
It's very difficult to implement a system like that. Conversion rate varies greatly depending on how the website is designed. For example, suppose that there is a page selling treadmill. The page has 10 pictures of treadmill from different angles. The page also has editorial review and 20 customer reviews. This page probably has much higher conversion rate than page that has only 1 picture and short description. Google has no control over how website owners, designers, design. |
I see your point but it doesn't stop Amazon, Commission Junction etc. adopting similar models. _________________ My Sites: The Management Blog | The Environment Site | Management Training |
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